Jenni and Nick are joined by Caren who talks openly about the impact on her and her four children of the death of her husband Leon, who was killed in a car accident.
Caren describes to Jenni how her main concern was what she could do or say to help her children, who were aged from 12 to 21, and to understand her own grief.
Caren also shares her experiences of counselling and how she and her children benefitted from the support Jenni was able to offer them as a family.